[JohnCurran]

I feel I must ask where you live / what competitive salaries look like to you, because as far as I know, a software developer salary of $190,000 USD+ in Barcelona, Spain is eye-poppingly high

[stopagephobia]

I think he's talking about runn where the compensation honestly looks terrible: $43k as a junior and under $80k as a senior. I wonder if the goal of transparency there isn't to avoid wasting time with the majority of people who won't put up with a salary that low.

[rsavage]

I am sure it’s low in the Silicon Valley. Here in NZ - we are the highest paid tech juniors I know off. Most offer around 60k NZD.

Need to remove your US bias. However - the whole point of transparent is that everyone knows.

If the salary is low for you, you will never apply. But you know exactly what you’ll be paid, and know it’s the same as everyone else doing the same role/level.

That is the benefit to being transparent - it doesn’t have to be the highest paid, it’s simply fair. equal and transparent.

[Aeolun]

Isn’t that still good? Just means they’ll get mostly local candidates.

[noahtallen]

I don’t think $43k is good in most local markets, even for juniors.

[Toutouxc]

What are you even talking about? The median yearly take home pay (sorry, don't know the right word for it) in my middle-of-the-pack EU country is around $16k.

Let me say that again, this country is in 35th place out of 193 by GDP per capita and this is how much people make here.

[noahtallen]

Yeah, my bad. My comment is very US-centric. At the same time, cost of living is likely much higher in the US, so that also makes a difference in the comparison.

Anyways, median income in the US is near $50k/yr (around $1k/week: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/wkyeng.pdf)

[xxpor]

People in the US don't realize how rich we are because we spend the money extremely poorly.

California's GDP will exceed Germany's soon. With less than half of the population. That'll make it the 4th largest economy in the world.

[danwee]

What? Maybe in 4 or 5 countries in the world. In the rest, 43K is high-pay for juniors.

[magnio]

Double the median income is not good enough for juniors?

[valenterry]

Is that double the median income of juniors in similar tech positions or the general median that contains part-time workers and jobs that require no education at all?

[noahtallen]

Median US income is $1k/week, which is more than this. (https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/wkyeng.pdf)

I mean, fair point, my comment was US-centric. But developers in the US should advocate for much more than that!

[Aeolun]

Lol, no. Not good salary. Good for everyone considering applying.

[ZephyrBlu]

In New Zealand that is pretty good compensation, unfortunately.

[googlryas]

In the US at Big tech cos(FANG style), that would be the base salary for someone with 7-10 years experience. And then you add on generous compensation packages(stock grants, 20ish% bonus target, signing bonus).

I would say it is eyepopping for US techies who haven't made it into the "big leagues", but there are probably a million software devs in the US making that.

[spacemadness]

Right, but that’s normally in extremely expensive US cities which is an entirely different league cost of living wise than Barcelona.

[efficax]

in norcal or new york, $190k is pretty standard for a senior role, with equity compensation on top. I get $185k with 7 years of professional engineering experience + rsus worth about $150k over 4 years, and really I could get more if I left for a bigger company, which I don't want to work at. Europe has lower salaries in general, but also a lower total cost of living and better gov't services.