[csteubs]

The new Defenders are awesome. I got to borrow one for the day from a buddy in Colorado and it was the ideal vehicle for the terrain. My only qualm was that the turbo lag felt pretty significant but it scoots once it's all spooled up. Very luxurious and very capable vehicles.

[RamblingCTO]

Yeah, agreed. Very capable and probably better than the old ones. But I like my old one because it has almost no tech and I can easily fix things even in Mongolia or something. No computers needed!