[sdiq]

Samsung has now decided that for me to use the camera on my Android phone, i must give full permission to something called Nearby Devices. Thankfully, i can live without the camera but for the first time, i mulling over moving to Apple.

[galangalalgol]

Samsung has fallen far. I switched to a cheap version of the pixel last time I got a new phone. Much longer os update cycle, and they essentially always get rom support first of all the phones. There is certainly better hardware put there but it only has google adware not the vendor's and Google's adware. And roms with no google are am option. I think I may consider an iphone when it gets usb-c but I would miss having a fedora install on my phone to do weird stuff. If they gave me a way to get a terminal where I could have rootless docker or jails on an iphone. I'd be on it. Bonus for having the usbc recognize keyboards, thumb drives and Ethernet adapters.

[RunSet]

> I switched to a cheap version of the pixel last time I got a new phone.

Recommend GrapheneOS for your Pixel phone. It is so good I wonder how long it will last.

https://grapheneos.org/

[P5fRxh5kUvp2th]

Apple's privacy stance is why I'll never move to Android.

And yes, I get it, they're not perfect, but they're the better of 2 bad options.

[folbec]

Don't count your chickens yet :

https://www.thespl.it/p/apples-sleeping-advertising-business

" For the past five years, Apple has been setting up for what will soon be its most profitable product line. It's not a new phone or computer: it's advertising. "

As some C-suite suit bonus will depend on that, you can be sure that the various protections will evaporate over the years.

[throw10920]

> they're not perfect, but they're the better of 2 bad options

[ztjio]

Fearmongering or maybe you just haven't been watching? Apple has already been doing advertising for years now. They make it quite easy to disable any tracking you might be concerned about. There's zero reason to think they'll change that.

[citizenpaul]

Apple has been sliding. It is unavoidable. Your privacy is simply too valuable to let you keep it.

[ben_w]

Fortunately, there are now laws to make privacy rather less profitable to violate.

[citizenpaul]

Perhaps in Europe or Canada. As far as the US I'm not aware of any laws with teeth.

[ben_w]

"With teeth" is something I can't comment on as I'm not a lawyer, but I thought California had something similar to GDPR?

[secondcoming]

Nokia do android phones. I've not noticed any privacy-creep in mine.

[_carbyau_]

Nokia did the Android One for all their phones at one point. Now they don't. That doesn't mean anything in itself though.

[z3t4]

> i mulling over moving to Apple.

Pest or cholera - that's what happens when there is a monopoly and the monopoly buys out or sue every competitor. Google and Apple are laughing all the way to the bank, Just like Microsoft for PC.