[lazyeye]

So you are comparing 3 very different businesses, particularly in terms of market size and economics of distribution.

I'm going to assume you lack the background and expertise to make any meaningful assessment of these businesses in the general sense, let alone with regard to specific challenges they each faced.

And even if true, the opposite of under-promising and over-delivering is not "immense amounts of fraud".

[Bubble_Pop_22]

Nobody cares about the potential. People only care about a CEO as the person who signs off quality of life.

Musk has barely signed off anything, he's constantly postponing the moment when he'll sign off quality of life, but he's getting paid right now.

Today has been a slow day and I used the various different flavors of Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft so many times. They might not be a colony on Mars, but at least they are real.