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by belkarx 1331 days ago
>If she does not understand or employ traditional feminine wiles that, offensive though it may be to admit, are necessary to getting along in a patriarchy?

Is this really true in this day and age?

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Of course. No one defies gender roles in the modern West. There are no large, media/ruling class celebrated subcultures of people who do not follow gender roles. All conform.

To be less tongue in cheek, no it’s not true. Life is harder if you’re weird but plenty of people are abnormal to the level of dysfunction and severe negative consequences and they get by. Plenty of others conform to gender roles and have a shit time anyway.

It’s a lot easier to make it as a member of the journalist class if you say what the author did about the patriarchy, of course.

Yes. Well perhaps not feminine wiles, but a greater degree of determination than men need.

Even here in Norway, which is a bastion of egalitarianism, men still have life time earnings substantially in excess of women and are a larger proportion of industrial workers, politicians, and board members.

In other societies that are less advanced in this respect I can easily imagine that the occasional wielding of a 'feminine wile' might count for something.

The idea that we live in a patriarchy is laughable to me, but as a woman myself, I'd say that yes, knowing how to interact with men as a woman — "feminine wiles" — is very useful. If not indispensable.