[omginternets]

>So rather than simply pondering (and suggesting) the question of whether "benefits outweighed the cost" we need to also consider the alternative-cost. How many more would have, or could have, died without the vaccines?

Agreed. But you are not actually speaking to my point. My point is that you cannot assert the vaccines were net-positive at this time.

[galaxyLogic]

I think there is clear evidence about the benefits of Covid vaccines and very little evidence of their negative effects. There are both of course but the scientific and medical communities must provide their recommendations after weighing on the pros and cons.

Now of course I could neglect their advise, and adopt your, or anybody else's advise instead, if you have one. Would that make much sense to me? Who's advise should I follow? Those who suggested that "injecting bleach" might kill the virus. I think I BETTER follow the advise of the established medical and scientific community.

I can't prove to you they are 100% correct all of the time. But it makes rational sense to me and everybody to follow their advise, rather than any random layman's advise out there.

The clear evidence about benefits of Covid-vaccines to me is that most of the million+ people who died of Covid were unvaccinated and many more millions of people who were vaccinated did not die or get seriously ill.

So how many millions of people did get bad side-effects from the vaccine? I haven't seen that number, was it in the millions?

But millions of people did get bad "side effects" (they died) from following the advise of those who told them to be afraid of the vaccine, to treat the pandemic as a "democratic hoax".