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by counters 1334 days ago
> Whatever I produced for the first prompt can be graded by ticking off boxes and looking at my grammar; whatever I produced for the second prompt would need a thorough investigation of my own writing style and a framework of grading that takes into account my own voice as an author.

The two prompts motivate the writer to practice two completely different skillsets; they're really not comparable.

The first one is focused more on the fundamentals of close reading and analysis. The writer needs to understand what the theme of "chaos" means, then closely read the novel or review their notes to identify literary devices or techniques that theme, and then tie it together in a "report". It requires the assignee to practice very basic skills... it's technical practice, not artistry.

The second prompt is the artistry - it's an assignment in discourse or rhetoric. The thing is, it's not possible to successfully execute the second prompt unless you've mastered the techniques from the first prompt. Beyond constructing logical or emotional arguments that may be tailored to your audience (your best friend), you still have to collect evidence from the novel. It might not be a list of literary devices, but if one of your arguments was that the book was poorly and confusingly written, you would still probably need to collect evidence of specific passages that support your claim. The whole point of the first prompt is to build the skill to do this, but with some hand-holding/constraints for practice.

I won't defend page limits, but even the reference style mandate is important because it has implications for how you actually write the essay. I deal with technical stakeholders all the time, and the amount of time that we could clear up issues if someone would just properly cite a reference can be ridiculous... perhaps those stakeholders were the teenagers who didn't bother to follow the citation guidelines for their literature class?

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This really got me thinking, so here's another comparison to draw on:

As a teenage musician, I hated drilling my scales and etudes. Why bother when practice was limited and I had cool ensemble and solo rep to learn? What I didn't understand and appreciate at the time is that all the technical drudgery serves a very real purpose. Most of the existing pedagogy is directly pulled from, based on, or references real repertoire which you'll undoubtedly encounter in your musical career.

All those scales in intervals? Well, you can't even begin to make a complex passage musical if you can't execute the technique! Arpeggios in weird fingering/shifting patterns? Turns out that some very exposed orchestral passage necessitates that you use an oddball fingering because it's just not practical to do anything else in context. That entire development section in the concerto you need to cram for an audition? Good thing that one of your etudes book was effectively variations and embellishments on that section, so you can lean on muscle memory and focus on making it sound nice!

Essay writing is much the same. No matter what I'm writing - an e-mail, a project proposal, a performance review, whatever - I'm trying to communicate a point. That means constructing an argument and supplying evidence. And doing so in a way that your audience will grok without any additional intervention. You build this skill by practicing, sometimes in ways that seem dumb, boring, and disconnected from reality. Not every pedagogy is ground so well in reality as my music example, but I can't imagine that the cynical take that it's all purely to automate grading is a rational take on things.

I've jumped back into doodling on guitar after a mid-20's post band break up and... it's totally different this time. I am so much more interested in scales, building chords by manually and so forth, when I was younger I wanted to play songs.

The opposite is true for my math. I enjoyed algebra as a kid and hated trig and calculus. Now I am much more interested in calculus and don't like algebra algebra.

Sometimes there's different ways to learning, I have no idea.

> That means constructing an argument and supplying evidence.

Ah wouldn't it be fantastic if school essays were more like proving to your boss that you followed the spec to the letter and less like... Following the spec to the letter.

That's the difference and it makes all the difference.

What about convincing your colleagues that something about the spec is wrong?

It's worth noting that the same skills the "version 1" essay is supposed to teach should be helpful if all you need to do is compile a checklist and save yourself the hassle of argument.

> The first one is focused more on the fundamentals of close reading and analysis. The writer needs to understand what the theme of "chaos" means ...

I think what ends up happening in reality, at least, in my experience, is that you Google "Slaughterhouse Five chaos" and trawl the first several pages of results looking for information you can essentially copy+paste into your essay (with slight adjustments to get around automatic plagiarism scanners, of course).

I did still demonstrate some kind of skill, maybe research and the ability to condense information from many sources down into a single piece of work, but those weren't the skills you mention, and it was definitely not what the teacher was intending for me to do.

The second prompt the person you responded to runs into the same issues (I can Google "Slaughterhouse Five reviews"), but at the very least probably feels like a more engaging and compelling essay prompt to the student.

You're generalizing in a way that probably suits you and people like you. Not everyone though.

The second prompt would have sent me spinning, panic, want to run.

The first prompt, while being 'technical' and not what a future 'writer' would like to do at that point can be somewhat mechanically achieved and while I still wouldn't have liked it, I would begrudgingly do it and it probably helped me overall. It mentions using certain 'techniques' you would've learned about in class. I can apply that. They want a specific number of pages at minimum so that I don't just write 5 sentences to cover the 5 examples, sure, whatever.

Like learning math. You gotta learn the basics, learn the multiplication tables by heart. Do the same "compute (-7^2*13-7)+5/5" style exercises over and over. It teaches attention to detail and memorizing and following simple rules. If you can't do that it is very unlikely that a "closer to reality" question that someone that will later go on to become a mathematician would like working on instead would not send you into panic mode.

I disagree on the ability to execute the second prompt.

You would like them to execute the second prompt in a way that demonstrates the skills that the first prompt calls for. They won't. They'll just take the second prompt, and communicate exactly the same way that they already do to their friends, with similar skills and language. The result may be persuasive - particularly to their friends - but it won't develop analytic skills.