[z9znz]

Perhaps your love of JS/TS/whatever is based more on the path you took and your starting point than the tech you use.

Having been through half a dozen programming languages and most phases of the evolution of web development, I have a very different perspective. The complexity and fragility of modern JS-centric web development would have been unimaginable to us 15 years ago.

What started (as far as most people experienced) as Jquery, where you could sprinkle a little JS and make some big UX improvements ballooned into this monster where you need thousands of libraries, package management, bundling/minifying/babeling/etc., and fallback plans (you do have graceful degredation built into your JS frontend, yes?).

As the phrase goes, we can't see the forest for the trees. If we did carefully review the path we took from then to now, the promises or beliefs we bought which led us down certain trails, and then considered the outcome... I expect we wouldn't be even close to this situation we find ourselves in now.

[christophilus]

I’ve written quite a few old-school web apps in Rails and ASP.Net. Unless you stuck to really basic stuff, they were much harder for me to reason about than the React codebases I’ve been on. jQuery consists of trying to reason about accidentally over aggressive global event handlers and effects, etc.

I prefer the modern mess.

It’s still a mess, though.