[sailplease]

Based on a couple of the reviews it sounds like Intel is doing really well on a very old node and more or less beating AMDs part for part comparison by adding more little cores and better cache for ipc and MT gains. Power draw is better on this refresh but worse than AMDs 5nm chips, but one review showed idle power draw on the amd 7000 series at ~100w vs ~60W on the intel system at the plug which is concerning and a couple reviewers are yet to test intels claim that they can match last gen perf at ~1/4 the power draw which might actually give intel the perf/watt crown. REnder tests I saw measuring KJ drawed per task did show AMD about 15% more efficient BUT at single core the draws are the same so depends on how hard you're hammering and the workloads. I think Intel has the huge cost advantage due to cheaper MBs, memory and sounds like AMD 7000 series sales are hurting due to the large platform cost. I think Intels meteor lake parts will be the most interesting, if Intel can actually execute on time we'll see a shop who clearly can execute on an old node hopefully surprise on a modern node.

[galangalalgol]

The gp was probably trolling given that it is obvious apple only makes processors for phones and laptops that have much less than half the world's market share. Not even counting servers or workstations. But with the advent of graviton and oracle's arm server nodes, I do think the gp made an unintentional point about arm defeating amd and Intel. If we see some higher end Chromebooks start making intoads for things besides browsing and mail that will probably be the writing on the wall for both amd and intel to pivot and fast.

[KingOfCoders]

Yes I have an AM4 12c and will probably switch b/c the iGPU is betyer and Raptor Lake seems to idle better.