[amag]

Even so, that person will not be you. Even if they will go through exactly the same things you've been through they may not have the same experience. You cannot know if it was worth it for them.

I think it's fine if people don't have kids, I just find the reasoning "what if they suffer, etc" a cop-out. You cannot know that beforehand and even if they suffer, they may still find meaning in life.

[logical_ferry]

Last several replies you gave are such high quality. I hate it when people overintellectualize such obvious things like having a kid. I would have flipped out at the other poster, but you stuck in there and gave some really good points. Awesome.

[Defitio]

Having kids is everything but obvious.

Don't dismiss critical thinking with an attack on you just because it feels obvious to you.

[Defitio]

Regret emotions etc. are only possible when you are alive.

Missery etc also can only be felt when you are alive.

You clearly don't take any responsibility at all otherwise I'm lost on how easy you just dismiss concerns.

[amag]

So is joy, happiness and pleasure. I feel sorry for you if your life is only filled with regret and misery. For most people there are ways out of misery but it all starts with the realization that it's not a necessity. When you're depressed it's difficult to imagine ever being able to feel anything else again but knowing that it is possible can put you on the right track.

Maybe your need to pass judgement on my character based on two posts should tell you something about yourself. It really takes an inflated ego to, as a non-parent, talk about responsibility with a parent. Paraphrasing: "Responsibility as a parent is heavy as a mountain, deciding not to have children is light as a feather".