[maximus-decimus]

The point with scheduling is that on a normal plug, it make take long enough to charge your car that you can't charge it completely during the time window where electricity is the cheapest. So the parent comment was arguing you need faster charging to save money by doing all your charging in that time window.

But yeah I have a hard time believing it's gonna be a big enough saving to offset the cost of the charger.

[natch]

Cars have the scheduling built in.

Unless you buy an electric car from one of the companies that is actively promoting gas cars and trying to make their own electric cars super crappy in hopes the entire concept will fail. Meaning, any gas car maker.

Yes, scheduling saves money. But even paying high electric rates during peak hours can still be way cheaper than gas, depending on what exact rates we're talking about, which varies by location.

But the plug has nothing to do with scheduling if you just use the car's own scheduling or plug/unplug yourself.

[IndrekR]

Being able to charge with 11kW (level 2 charger) instead of 3.5kW (level 1 charger) allows to charge daily 20kW within 2 hours instead of 6.

Two days ago kWh was at 0.03€ For two hours only, after 0.41€ peaks during the day. Of course this scheduling is automatic. Using Gridio (https://www.gridio.io/) for that.

[IndrekR]

Payback time here is about 100 full charges (IONIQ5, Nordpool day-ahead pricing).