[rumpelstinkin]

Think that it might be bad for yourself, but good for your kids because you didn't force them to enter this fucked up world for your own benefit. Speaking as someone who hates being born, and there are countless like me, and you can't know in advance.

[S_Bear]

Hear hear. It's such an ego stroke for the parents, but I have to live out my life in chronic pain. I make the best of my existence, but never having to go through all this would have been superior. Got snipped in my early 20s so I couldn't accidentally do this to someone else.