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I actually don't agree with this at all. Everyone loves to hate on college, but personally and professionally on average there is a world of difference between people that come from a good school and a bad school.

We are all lazy, I would rather have fun and party; that's a no brainer. However, rigor and competition and some metric(grades) to compare students is what pushes and motivates them to succeed. Creativity is possible in creative subjects, if you take drama, music, or art grading is going to be very different than in chemistry or physics. This has nothing to do with the system, and more to do with subjects.

Not everyone thrives in the system, but not everyone gets joy out of learning either. Problem is that there are a few good schools and a lot of bad schools, so on average you'll hear poor experiences, but this is suffering from the silent evidence effect.