[dom2]

> A study ... suggested it may be driven by an inflammatory response associated with SARS-CoV-2’s spike protein, which the messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines coax the body to produce. The group reported finding certain antibodies in both vaccine-induced myocarditis patients and patients with severe COVID-19, which itself can cause myocarditis.

If those who had this reaction to the vaccine gotten COVID without the vaccine, would it not be likely that they would see the same inflammation response and the same heart damage? If that were the case, receiving the vaccine still seems like a reasonable choice.

[oaktrout]

Consider the magnitude of the immune response. In someone with pre-existing immunity the virus may replicate relatively little before being killed. Compare this to getting the vaccine, where your body will be flooded with spike protein whether you have previous immunity or not.

[ralph84]

Exactly. And the most plausible explanation for the large variation in number of VAERS reports by lot number is that poor quality control meant some lots were "hot" and led to excessive spike protein production.

[slaw]

I got severe side effects from Pfizer vaccine and so did my spouse. We still didn't fully recover more than year later. We got vaccinated at the same Costco on the same day. I did it because of pressure from work as I had covid before. I didn't expect any health benefits, but I didn't expect year later I still have regrets to fall into trap.

[andrewflnr]

Source? That would actually be quite encouraging, since it suggests an obvious way to fix the problem.

[fdewrewrewf]

If you get the vaccine, then you definitely get the vaccine.

[moistly]

Is there not near-unanimous agreement that everyone is going to catch Covid at some point. Like, cave hermits are pretty much the only exception.

[CharlesW]

My family hasn't yet, and we're far from cave hermits — we just pretty consistently do smart, reasonable things.

Around 25% of children and adolescents who get COVID-19 will get long COVID, the long-term effects of which are not well understood. I have no plans to surrender to "fate" and to stop doing smart, reasonable things.

[Llamamoe]

I don't think the rate is that high. I think it's closer to 3%, give or take a few, right now, with an order of magnitude more cases of partial recovery of acute symptoms over time.

Which IMO is still insane, but I don't think it's 1 in 4 level of bad.

[andrewflnr]

We're only, what, two years in? Give it a couple more. "Doing smart, reasonable things" only reduces the odds, not put them at zero. Iterate enough times, and the cumulative odds approach 1.

FWIW I predicted that would be the situation in like March 2020. This isn't some new forced narrative, at least for me.

[kc22mr]

There is not, and it pains me to hear people reinforcing that narrative. There are immunocompromised individuals within my family that have significantly higher risks of complications than the next person. For this reason, we take every precaution to avoid exposure and transmission. We have been fortunate to remain COVID-free so far, but please remember that there are lives hanging in the balance.

[JumpCrisscross]

> there not near-unanimous agreement that everyone is going to catch Covid at some point

Be infected by SARS-CoV-2, the virus, sure. Get Covid, the disease, no.

[moistly]

K, fair distinction.

[fdewrewrewf]

That much was obvious as soon as it was determined that this new virus was a respiratory coronavirus.