[SirZimzim]

It's amazing how daft these guys are, socializing at work is a fundamental way of building better relationships and being able to deep dive into more complex and controversial issues. Humans operate off of trust and treating everyone as an anonymous worker bee is only a recipe for getting basic work done that streams down from management.

[yrgulation]

Following your logic there should be no ecommerce, since you cant step into a building and establish trust. Also there should be no companies distributed geographically since people cant “deep dive” into “controversial issues”. Such a dated concept and so not fit for modern day.

But the notion that people cant convey ideas while remote shows you either havent worked with experienced people or are inexperienced yourself.

[SirZimzim]

I specifically mentioned socializing at work and working with complex and controversial issues, how does buying something online relate to that? I also never said that people can't convey ideas while remote, the post I replied to made one vague mention of on-site requirements, I made none. Just the implication that on-site leads to better building of trust.

I would never personally advocate for full on-site and I am actually a supporter of full remote work. I just don't pretend it's already perfect and that we can function by just purely conversing about work like we are JIRA ticket machines.

Also, geographically distributed companies will still tend to have the majority of people in a team or sub-team in one area but nothing is 100%. Different geographies usually have different responsibilities. Companies will also do all kinds of other methods of team building that is mostly social to compensate like flying everyone to a singe location occasionally or remote activities.

[lm28469]

> treating everyone as an anonymous worker bee is only a recipe for getting basic work done that streams down from management.

I might blow your mind but there is a whole spectrum between being stuck with colleagues in an office 2000 hours a year and being an anonymous working bee

[SirZimzim]

Yes, there is a spectrum to everything and my comment was not absolute about working hours either. I was not proposing we go to the office full time, simply that socialization at work is a core piece of building trust at work which is fundamental to deep collaborative efforts.

And the implication obviously is that socialization works better in person, but I didn't say it was exclusive to that. The person I responded to did say something about on-site requirements but it was vague.