[thebooktocome]

The number I could find for all cause drug overdose death (including everything in addition to fentanyl) for the last twelve months was 110k.

Cardiovascular disease 870k.

Cancer 610k.

Usual caveats apply to cause of death reporting, but fentanyl alone is not terribly relevant to this topic.

[furyofantares]

If a typical fentanyl overdose is destroying 30-40 years of life expectancy and a typical covid death is destroying 5, then 40k fentanyl overdoses would be similar to 280k covid deaths in terms of life expectancy.

I don't know if my numbers are right, but your numbers don't lead me to dismiss fentanyl from the current conversation.

[thebooktocome]

Yeah, I don’t think excess COVID deaths are driving life expectancy either. It’s the two things I listed in my comment, both of which are getting worse with time and are affecting people earlier and earlier.

Although I’ve heard anecdotal evidence that COVID infection does damage cardiovascular health.