[breput]

The electrical code has evolved not only to enrich electricians, but also to provide a safer environment for the occupants of the buildings. So noting/complaining about having to upgrade an 82 year old rental duplex to modern standards because of electric car charging is a little disingenuous. That wiring is already past the end of life and ought to be updated for the safety of the occupants.

But I wouldn't be surprised if the 2023 (maybe 2026) NEC will require at least 30A 240V service to garages with electrical service.

[alias_neo]

That's a valid argument to make to a home owner, but for a landlord that's potentially all of their profits, and besides, it's not theirs or their family's lives at risk from the old wiring.

It still works right? Great, let's add another excuse to increase the rent and we're golden!

[xeromal]

I don't think they were complaining until they realized they may be liable for upgrading the neighborhood's infrastructure too which seems ridiculous.

[bdcravens]

Note that states can always override NEC requirements. For example, Texas overrode the 2020 NEC requirement that 240 outlets in the garage must have GFCI breakers. (Learned this when wiring my garage with a 30A plug for my EV)

[mindslight]

> the 2020 NEC requirement that 240 outlets in the garage must have GFCI breakers

I haven't been keeping up on all the new NEC requirements for shoving xxCI's in various places, but I can see no rationale for this one. There is no such thing as 240 volts to ground in a home - it's all 120V (that's RMS, it's 170V peak), with a "240" outlet being both line phases (say +120 and -120 at a given point in time, giving a differential of 240).

Touching a residential "240 volt" line for a dryer or stove will give you the same exact shock as touching a common 120 volt line. The risk of 240 volt circuits is that they are generally of higher ampacity, and will thus have a much higher arc current. A GFCI does absolutely nothing to mitigate this!

Honestly they would have been better mandating the garage 120v receptacles be GFCI even though they're above grade, because people tend to do things like plug extension cords into them for use outside. 240 volt receptacles generally have a dedicated purpose, like a car charger.

[ender341341]

I'm pretty sure it is any outlet in the garage now needs to be GFCI (though that may be that we have a utility sink out there for why we needed it).

For my EVSE I just had it hardwired to avoid it (which also allowed me to do higher amperage too).