[Isolus]

> Reality: the Greens and their allies spent half a trillion USD on the "energy transition" and turned off perfectly good nuclear reactors. Result: energy shortages and diplomatic submission to Russia.

Um no. Renewable energy is now actually cheaper than nuclear energy. You could build renewable energy + storage within the same range of cost. The problem is the former government shut down nuclear power plants and then did exactly nothing.

The nuclear power plants aren't perfectly good. They are very old and would need a lot of investment if run for more than a couple of month.

And germany isn't even near electric energy shortages. It's currently supplying france with a lot of energy.

If electric heating were used everywhere from now on, there would be an electricity problem. But for that the electric heaters are missing.

[evilos]

It's only recently cheap. It's true that if they had pivoted to Nuclear instead, they would not had these energy shortfalls and maybe even Russia wouldn't have felt they had the leverage to invade Ukraine.

The global output of battery storage isn't high enough to switch to solar/wind. Energy is a solved problem. It's a natural progression of mankind's command of energy. Wood->Coal->Oil->Fission. There's enough Uranium in the ground and oceans to supply humanity for million of years. We can't let a few accidents hold us back for ever.

[hbgl]

I would really like to celebrate the affordability of renewable energy but Germany has one of the highest electricity prices in the world.

[Isolus]

The price before taxes and fees is absolutely not high in Germany. Only if you look at the final price, the statement is true.

But if production cost isn't the problem what difference would nuclear power make?

[rasz]

>You could

Clearly Germany couldnt, otherwise they would decommission coal plants.

[Isolus]

As I said, the former government startet the nuclear phase-out but they also didn't approve any new renewable energy sources for years.

Regardless of the type of power plant, it is totally stupid to shut down some and not allow any new ones to be built.