[bdg]

In general I wish the "culture" of programmers would differentiate the "language" itself from the "things it is linked with" and "the ecosystem of available packages". We get a lot of pointless arguments where person 1 is talking about case 2, and another is thinking about case 3.

PHP, Ruby, and Node all use things like cURL or the same PCRE regex lib, but I've seen uninformed or misguided arguments about "how Node is better than PHP at making HTTP requests because of axios", and not "I like Axios more than Guzzle3".