[neogodless]

> Zen 4 is also everywhere but not selling

I was shocked to learn today that B650 boards are available. That information didn't seem to make it anywhere near my usual technology news channels!

But... they start at $170 for a barebones motherboard. Having spent $200 not too long ago for a well-rounded mid-range X570 board, I find $170 for the starting line up quite steep. And it's unlikely builders want to pair their $300+ Zen 4 chips with the most basic board available.

The barebones right now would be $170 + $300 + $90 (16GB DDR5) = $560 before accounting for the rest of the parts (like a GPU).

[sliken]

Yup, doubling the memory bandwidth, doubling the memory channels, and doubling the PCIe bandwidth, and switching to DDR5 is placing a premium on the new AM5 platform for AMD. Similar happened with the Alder lake launch, which had the same upgrades and combined with sky high DDR5 memory prices.

Just wait a few months, pioneers are the ones that get the arrows (high prices) in the back side.

[tracker1]

I'm waiting until around March/April... hoping that prices settle by then, also considering rDNA3 and hoping to see an R9 7950X3D model by then before making final decisions on a next build. Also, right now there's not really any good options for higher speed DDR5 at higher quantities and am curious to see which boards support ecc by then.