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by liminalsunset
1340 days ago
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Several potential problems: 1) You would have to pay these real engineers with licenses more for this to make sense. Currently most jobs that even make mention of this requirement pay well under what the software development equivalent would make 2) Companies don't like to hire "Real" engineers wherever possible because like all bureaucracy, sometimes they prevent projects moving forward. Companies are incentivized to employ the bare minimum of licensed individuals to sign off on the cheaper and faster work of the unlicensed proletariat. and pressure is put on the licensed to rubber stamp things. 3) I have found a lot of the courses in engineering school about ethics etc to be extremely rubber stamp/"mandatory safety training" ish, just like the dumb what's a stop sign test at the DMV. I doubt people en masse remember what they learn. I see it as a complex ruse to make people do the equivalent of sign a legal document saying "I accept the terms of this agreement and have the capacity to do so", more of "something that can be taken away if bad things happen" than "something to prevent bad things from happening" |
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> 2) Companies don't like to hire "Real" engineers wherever possible because like all bureaucracy, sometimes they prevent projects moving forward. Companies are incentivized to employ the bare minimum of licensed individuals to sign off on the cheaper and faster work of the unlicensed proletariat. and pressure is put on the licensed to rubber stamp things.
These are reasons why companies might not want to hire engineers, but also reason why we might not want to do business with those sorts of companies. The fact that lots of companies seem to have gotten away with this stance seems to indicate a failure somewhere.
> 3) I have found a lot of the courses in engineering school about ethics etc to be extremely rubber stamp/"mandatory safety training" ish, just like the dumb what's a stop sign test at the DMV. I doubt people en masse remember what they learn. I see it as a complex ruse to make people do the equivalent of sign a legal document saying "I accept the terms of this agreement and have the capacity to do so", more of "something that can be taken away if bad things happen" than "something to prevent bad things from happening"
Yeah kinda. In defense of this sort of thing, going on to get a professional engineering license is definitely not something that all engineering students do. Many go on to do jobs that are more like programmers or technicians, right? Maybe the typical engineering degree should be renamed to pre-enginnering or something, but something tells me getting universities on board with that will be... challenging!