[bigfudge]

The climate doesn’t care about what is fair, but people do and this needs to be considered if we want to succeed.

Most individuals in China consume way less than most individuals in the US and emit less carbon. That they live under the same totalitarian govt is unlikely to make them sympathetic to the view that their personal sacrifice should be higher as we fight a global challenge.

[theplumber]

>> is unlikely to make them sympathetic to the view that their personal sacrifice should be higher as we fight a global challenge.

I doubt they are willingly making sacrifices. They are just forced to do that...the poor people consume less because they cannot grab more.

[marginalia_nu]

The problem is that everyone plays this game.

The voters blame the politicians. The politicians blame the voters for voting wrong. The communists blame capitalism. Capitalism blames capitalism. The consumers blame the producers for producing the wrong thing. The producers blame the consumers for wanting the wrong thing. The east blames the west. The west blames the east. Cats blame dogs. Dogs blame cats.

In a sense yeah. They are all right, they are all right because we are all to blame. Each and every one of us bear this guilt. We all could have done differently. And if we keep sitting in a circle pointing fingers at each other, if we don't all own up to this responsibility, who is to blame won't matter, because there will hardly be anyone left to point fingers in a few hundred years.

We either fix this together or we all lose alone (although comforted by the thought that surely someone else was more at fault).