[LawTalkingGuy]

> How is this related to DEI?

The words of a black man regarding affirmative action? In pretty much all the ways.

> Credit Unions (and co-ops) also employ people, so it makes sens from that angle, as well.

By that rule everything such as encouraging eating more vegetables should be in there. The guiding principles should be minimal and topical.

[sure_about_that]

Re-read your quote, those weren’t Justice Thomas’s words. They are the words of a New Yorker writer. It’s not his quote. Also, DEI is not only about black people. Affirmative Action is not the same as DEI.

== By that rule everything such as encouraging eating more vegetables should be in there.==

Credit Unions, the ones who wrote the principles, don’t have anything to do with eating vegetables. They believe DEI to be topical for their business. Have you run a Credit Union?

I like how you dismiss their opinion on their business practices, while embracing one person’s view of affirmative action as the definitive statement on DEI. It’s quite a stretch.

[LawTalkingGuy]

> Have you run a Credit Union?

No, but I've been part of co-ops and other community run groups for decades.

> Credit Unions, the ones who wrote the principles, don’t have anything to do with eating vegetables

Right, and they also don't have anything to do with race quotas. Or religion quotas or climate change or justice for the Armenian genocide.

> They believe DEI to be topical for their business.

The employees are certainly free to feel that these are the main issues in the world and to direct their charity work towards them but the organization itself should remain focused on the reasons the co-op was founded.

> you dismiss their opinion on their business practices, while embracing one person’s view of affirmative action as the definitive statement on DEI

Right. I've been there in the business practices but I've never been a type-A black man trying to succeed against all odds in a racist nation.

> Re-read your quote, those weren’t Justice Thomas’s words.

I do think his actual quotes support the authors view but you're right.

> DEI is not only about black people. Affirmative Action is not the same as DEI.

Affirmative Action is a tactic, DEI is a framework that encompasses it and many other things.

[sure_about_that]

== Right. I've been there in the business practices but I've never been a type-A black man trying to succeed against all odds in a racist nation. ==

This is exhausting. In your mind, one 75-year-old black man can speak for all of DEI, but actual Credit Union experts have no idea how to run Credit Unions. Meanwhile, the head of the CUs is a black man and also an expert in CUs. He succeeded against all odds in a racist nation, but you have completely de-valued his thoughts/experience because you dug in so deep.

== Right, and they also don't have anything to do with race quotas.==

Who mentioned quotas? This is the tactic you've shown over-and-over again in this discussion, continually throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. You move the conversation away from the actual topic to go down some rabbit hole.

I am moving on. Hope you have a nice week.