[strangetortoise]

I clearly haven't, can you elaborate? I thought the steam deck was near universally lauded for it's open and hackable software, repairable hardware and competitive pricepoint. Is there some privacy news or other scandal I've missed?

[discardable_dan]

Full disclosure, I say this having spent days playing my Steam Deck now.

It's a hardware channel to deliver you an ad platform selling you video games. Steam has better vertical integration (they are selling the games they are advertising), but it's the same idea. I haven't seen Steam OS telemetry reports, but I would expect they're basically the same as every other tech player. The platform _is_ open and hackable, but the OS is immutable and it's still an ad device.

[marcus_holmes]

I also have a Steam Deck, and I should make it clear the "ads" are the usual Steam Store stuff - entirely voluntary (you don't see ads for games unless you visit the Store page) and non-intrusive.

I think there's a world of difference between showing people ads for games when they visit a store page voluntarily, and showing people ads in their social media feed when what they want is to see their friends' updates.

[Ekaros]

I find it very weird as well. So a store shouldn't show products it sell? Only allow them to be searched?

I understand being anti-add, but we are talking about store here selling and distributing products. Which makes reasonable attempt to serve relevant suggestions to user. Of new games or games that are somewhat based on what users have already played or followed.

Now if Steam store was showing third-party advertisements I would be on barricades.

And no one actually forces you to use the Steam on Steam Deck it is linux box with root access in place...

[andybak]

I am absolutely astonished. Up until now I was absolutely sure that Valve was purely a charity. /s

Seriously though. Can we have some nuance in the debate about advertising? Surely the bit we object to is the invasive, privacy and democracy-eroding tracking - not the concept of advertising itself?

[CyberDildonics]

That's like going in to a store and calling their product displays ads.