[sure_about_that]

==Democrats nicknamed it the "don't say gay" bill but that isn't its name, its goal, or its outcome.==

The actual bill language sure makes it seems like the goal, as it was written with ambiguous phrases like "age-appropriate" and "developmentally appropriate": "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards." [1]

==It's about the age appropriateness of the introduction to the topic.==

Is it? I'm pretty sure it is grandstanding:

"one of the key reasons critics cited in saying the law was unnecessary was that teachers do not cover such subjects in early grades anyway." [2]

Lawyers disagree with you that it is only about "age appropriateness of the introduction to the topic":

"Workshops about the law that her school district’s legal team held over the summer caused confusion. Some staff said they were told teachers in kindergarten through third grade could not display pride flags or photos of their same-sex spouses." [2]

Are you sure your news didn't "rename and reframe" it?

==Florida republicans protected women's sex-based rights by making male-bodied people play sports on men's teams and the news called it "denying transgirls their human rights to play sports".==

Protecting one group's rights by denying another group's rights, similar to women and fetuses.

==rather has the school hook the child up with hormones and body modification without the parent's knowledge.==

I would love to hear more about all these cases. Can you share?

==WonderWonder is thinking of their children, and how they'll be told they're racist - and to sit in their shame - just because of their race.==

No, they were mentioning their own experience in a DEI class.

[1] https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089221657/dont-say-gay-flori...

[2] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/dont-say-gay-law-brin...

[LawTalkingGuy]

> Protecting one group's rights by denying another group's rights

How were the males involved denied their rights by the school having them play sports on the men's team? The females involved sure lose their rights when males are allowed into their sports and spaces.

> I would love to hear more about all these cases. Can you share?

Lookup "Keffals" and "Hoogland transgender".

> Some staff said they were told teachers in kindergarten through third grade could not display [...]

If you're using something as a lead-in to a forbidden topic for your class's age range, it would be forbidden. Generally teachers should be like counsellors and keep their private life private so it shouldn't be a problem.

> Are you sure your news didn't "rename and reframe" it?

Yes, because even if it was as "bad" as you say, teacher's don't have a right to tell the kids whatever they want. Teachers are already recommended to not tell kids what religion they are, and until recently, what their politics are. This is about the kids, the teachers have a job to do.

[sure_about_that]

== Lookup "Keffals" and "Hoogland transgender".==

2 Canadian cases that have nothing to do with American laws.

== If you're using something as a lead-in to a forbidden topic for your class's age range, it would be forbidden.==

I don't think displaying a picture of your family is "a lead-in to a forbidden topic". Feels like quite a stretch. I remember everyone of my teachers growing up had picture on their desk or on the wall. My son's teacher has them today.

== the teachers have a job to do. ==

We should let them do the job for which they studied and were hired. They are the experts in teaching, we should let them teach. How do you feel when people who know nothing about your industry tell you how to do your job?

[LawTalkingGuy]

> Canadian cases that have nothing to do with American laws

Do a search or watch LibsOfTikTok to see what's happening in the USA.

> I don't think displaying a picture of your family is "a lead-in to a forbidden topic".

It is if you're hoping to be asked about it. Watch the LoTT videos. Some of those teachers say they're just waiting for their kids to ask about anything queer-adjacent.

> We should let them do the job for which they studied and were hired.

Many parents are/were teachers and have equivalent education. They agree that schools bypassing parental safeguarding rules is unacceptable.

> How do you feel when people who know nothing about your industry tell you how to do your job?

Lol, you've met my manager I take it? But I actually like it though because I'm a consultant at heart and explaining and guiding is more important than pedantically providing what I was asked for. If the teachers were willing to explain their PoV maybe the parents would support their teaching but secrets can't be accepted.

> They are the experts in teaching, we should let them teach.

They're experts in phalloplasties and puberty blockers which is why we should give them secret and unfettered access to children?

The same people who want trans-identified male athletes in female sports and washrooms are saying exactly the same thing about child surgical transition, "All the science supports this". It's pretty hard to take them seriously when they say William Thomas has no advantage against female swimmers since he changed his name to Lia or that chemo drugs produce a perfectly reversible delay in puberty.