[jef_leppard]

> quite frankly it's where the PHP developers all slithered off to

PHP isn't my favorite language but using phrasing like "slither" to describe an entire community of developers is frankly shitty. Every language has its problems including whatever you use.

[gw99]

I spent most of 2005-2013 doing contract work getting people out of near business ending buckets of shit thanks to the PHP community's inability to produce a product that was fit for purpose and the awful staff contracting building on top of the wobbly pillars of excrement. Slither is exactly the word because they were the first people to slither away and point fingers elsewhere when something was wrong. Now ten years after that I am in regular contact with people actively getting rid of it and it's the same problems. And here I am now on Sunday evening eviscerating another failed nodejs stack left by the same slithering fiends.

Oh no it's exactly right. Slithering is the word.

I don't get anywhere near this level of sheer incompetence on a daily basis in the Python, .Net or Go ecosystems. Nor do I have problems sleeping wondering what shit show am I going to face on a Monday morning with them.

[jef_leppard]

You sound like a fun guy. Enjoy.

[willio58]

8 years of contracting work and this bad of an outlook on the community, maybe you didn’t charge enough?

[gw99]

I was being paid large amounts of danger money to undo damage.

[sli]

I always say the reason PHP is still so hated is because rather than arguing about it on the internet to defend the language, PHP programmers are going home to their spouse, kids, and hobbies at the end of the work day.

[gw99]

That's the Visual Basic guys who do that.

The PHP developers spend most of their time outside smoking.

[aliqot]

Unless Python, then slither is fine.

[jef_leppard]

Dammit. You have my upvote.