[iancmceachern]

And evidence of bison killings predate bison being nearly killed off. It's more about sonar causing more whales to beach themselves, not that it didn't happen ever in nature, but that our actions cause it to happen way too often. This is a weird argument.

[Maursault]

It was not an argument, thus the qualifying first 5 words of my comment. I hate sonar, in anger accept that it beaches whales, but acknowledge that whale beachings predate sonar.