[fuckstick]

> However the reason I think there isn't is because public perception, regulation, changing tradition is hard, and peoples acceptable safety.

No, the reason is that for city driving there is no system that is even close to navigating typical driving problems that humans encounter multiple times on a daily basis. There are plenty of videos of self driving cars flummoxed by basic road obstacles.

What people like you call “edge cases” are actually common occurrences.

If you think any non geofenced system is close to average human level competence you are simply deluded.

[tluyben2]

I don’t agree with the gp, but humans, in my tiny village, drive into shit every single day. We just don’t accept that from self driving cars, but we do from humans because it’s normal.

[ClumsyPilot]

Do they make catastrophuc errors like mistake back of a semi for an underpass?

Do they stop in front of a cardboard box and just stand there for minutes?

[Kirby64]

Human drivers drive into other people all the time, whether due to intoxication, tiredness, or just outright not paying attention. I know two people that have gotten rear-ended at a stoplight by another driver going >40mph. One of them was drunk. The other claimed to not be paying attention and otherwise seemed sober.

Likewise, plenty of people just stop paying attention and read their phones ... idling at intersections much much longer than necessary. Or drive stoned and drive around at ridiculously slow speeds.