[ynbl_]

> Practically, we need ideas like to 2FA to gain tractionas widely as possible, while realising that isn't everywhere.

thats just one opinion on security. you see this world where google is an identity provider, and you prove your identity to it via a librarian or bank. i dont. an internet service should absolutely never require any form of government id nor separate network like cell.

[angry_octet]

You're failing to read my argument: for some people normal 2FA is too hard, and they need help from a local organisation.

But not for ALL people. Just for the people who need it.

You keep using TOTP and GPG email all you want, just don't get in the way of them getting basic services like social security.

[ynbl_]

you just backed off and said that the thing i responded to is an auxiliary point then your last sentence just retakes the position you backed off from by reclaiming that the auxillery point is true

shut the fuck up. of course someone named octect is the most braindamaged fuck on earth.