[throwaway7055]

Apparently water isnt wet. It took me awhile to get over the wtf reaction. Basically because wetness is the ability of a liquid to coat, or soak into, a solid. and being wet is the state of being covered in a liquid. We're left with the surprising conclusion that unless we think of water as being water coated, or soaked in, more water its not wet. I'm open to having my mind changed on this as I find it a bit ridiculous and will continue to think of liquids as being wet

[stavros]

Wetness is a property of the liquid, not of the solid. So, a surface is wet because it has a liquid on it, but the liquid is always wet.

It's like saying "blue things are things that are painted blue, but blue paint isn't painted blue, so it's not blue." Paint is the thing that makes the things blue, and is blue itself.

[Maursault]

But, in fact, blue paint is every other color but blue, which it reflects.

[stavros]

Yes, it's blue because it reflects blue.

[Maursault]

Twisting of words there. Because it appears blue, conventionally we call it blue, even though the thing itself is anything but blue. That it appears blue ironically means it is not blue.

[stavros]

On the contrary, you're the one who's defining something being blue as the opposite of what it is. Things are the color they reflect, not the color they absorb. A thing that reflects blue is blue, how could it be otherwise?

[Maursault]

The things are not the color they reflect, in the same way your position does not include the ideas that you reject, and the rubber ball that reflects off a wall is not that wall itself. Things are the color that they are, whether perceptible or not, but the color that is reflected eliminates that possibility for the thing's actual color.