Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by loceng 1351 days ago
This Reuters article is disingenuous at best.

They're downplaying the harm by changing the context.

Re: "found that 18% -- not one third -- experienced any detectable cardiac effect"

This research found 1:43 harm - because that harm included detection of damage to the heart via blood:

"Troponin blood test - troponin is a protein which is released into the blood stream when the heart muscle is damaged. The troponin level provides a quick and accurate measure of any heart muscle damage. It's used to help in the assessment following suspected heart attack."

Troponin was part of the research - and in 1:43 trooponin was detected post-shot vs. pre-shot.

And 1:301 is still extremely bad, no? Certainly you can make a judgement on that? It is actually harming 1:43 but even harming a heart - which is permanent damage as the heart doesn't heal - 1:301 of harming a young person's heart is completely unacceptable - especially when they're at very little risk of any significant harm, nowhere near 1:301 from COVID itself.

Also, 100% of the teens didn't recover after 14 days: there is permanent heart damage in 1:43.

They also focus on only including myocarditis numbers to make their numbers seem less worse (1:301 is still horrific) - by excluding the case(s) of pericarditis from their numbers.

Notice how Reuters is at the top of Google, and Reuters has routinely misled people to train them of these shallow-narrow talking points - to give them enough narrative to make them think the alarming research was less true than it actually is.

1 comments

I guess that would be a big concern if 301 wasn't literally the number of participants in the study. What kind of confidence interval can you extrapolate from that?

And elevated troponin is not definitive of permanent heart damage.

In the context of Kim Jung Gi's death, studies suggest an excess of <5 cases of myocarditis per 100,000 vaccine doses for men aged 40-50: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-31401-5/figures/3

I suspect this is considerably less of a risk to that age bracket than COVID.

"And elevated troponin is not definitive of permanent heart damage."

What else causes heart damage and troponin to release?

We're going on suspicions now rather than thoroughly reviewed science and data?