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They can have it. It's broken anyway. Even the basics don't work anymore. My father can't get an injury looked at. After weeks he got a doctor's appointment, doctor says he needs tests at the local hospital. Local hospital doesn't pick up the phone and only has a webpage for booking appointments, said page simply says there are no appointments available. As in, permanently. Not like, no slots in the next few weeks. As in, the site won't let you book appointments at all.

The injury doesn't seem to be healing and I'm getting worried. It's not an emergency but the sort of thing that maybe can fester and get worse. They're starting to talk about going private but it seems everyone talks about that now so I'm not sure it's so easy.

[SideburnsOfDoom]

> They can have it. It's broken anyway.

"That's the standard technique of privatization: defund, make sure things don't work, people get angry, you hand it over to private capital."

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The NHS hasn't been defunded. Check my other comment on this thread - NHS funding has never been cut and has risen far faster than the population size has. The collapse here wasn't a slow event anyway, it has very clearly been triggered by lockdowns/vaccines. The near closure of the health service in a failed attempt to slow the spread of an airborne virus created a backlog, forcing vaccines on the care home industry caused a lot of people to quit exacerbating an already existing bed blocker crisis, and now the ambulance services are being overwhelmed by a sudden and (officially) "unexplained" rise in callouts for heart attacks, strokes etc. What could possibly cause that I have no idea.

And the NHS isn't being privatized anyway so no clue what you're even talking about. Privatizing it might start to fix it. Good luck getting contracts that pay you by size of your patient list and not how much work you actually do, in a properly privatized system!

[throwaway290]

You need to track not just population but the amount of people who need the service. If population becomes older (which is generally the norm in a developed country) or otherwise less healthy (which may well be the case considering environment and food pollution) then even keeping the same number of people still requires the budget to be increased appropriately in order to be able to cover a given user equally well.

[DanBC]

> The collapse here wasn't a slow event anyway, it has very clearly been triggered by lockdowns/vaccines

Absolutely fucking mental mate.

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Yeah, totally mental. Me and the rest of the country, mate. The part you quoted is by far the least controversial aspect of anything I've said. In 2019 these problems weren't happening to anywhere near the same extent. Once lockdowns hit getting appointments has become drastically harder and this is widely reported.

[evnix]

It is cheaper to fly to India and get it seen by a specialist and have it treated or have a surgery done on the same day as you land. if you pay slightly extra, it will include 3 course meals as well.

The main problem is the lack of doctors, sure we import plenty of them. I wont even get into how we basically import almost what seems like slave labour. also no one wants to spend 15-20 years of their life for little returns, the easy answer is to increase the number of medical colleges, reduce the number of years to train by creating more specialisations.

apart from a few delicate surgeries, majority of the procedures are learnt with a year or two of training post your foundation level medical school, lot of specialisations can be automated away, Radiologists are probably the first to disappear.

[J3klin]

Where in the country do you live? I've had some rough experiences down south but that sounds next level.

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Father is in the North West.