[ethanbond]

I don't know where you get the impression I'm outraged? I figure this link is posted on HN because people like conversing about fast-growing companies and their practices, not because it's actually Tesla Owners Car Club News.

It seems extremely odd to come into a discussion then complain about how exhausting the discussion is and then stay in the discussion complaining about how exhausting it still is.

Also note: Most companies don't claim their cars are fully self driving (even with a Beta tag attached), so the analog to other cars missing these sensors is pretty obviously disingenuous.