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by sgt 1396 days ago
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> - Inconsistent electricity supply (brown outs are somewhat common)

No serious data center in South Africa is affected by this. All have batteries and diesel generators.

> - Poor physical infrastructure (at least a decade ago, copper cable theft was common)

Luckily copper theft affects DC's and fibre less. With redundancies it is manageable.

> - Business-unfriendly practices - I don't have the exact details, but you often have to run things through a local company with sufficient black representation. Sounds innocent enough, but does create a monopoly you have to deal with. Effectively a tax or bribe depending on perspective.

Yes this is a long term problem with South Africa. It stems from the ruling party (ANC) being super corrupt and embracing victim mentality to shift the blame. But there are often ways around Black Economic Empowerment not involving bribes.

> - Poor connectivity to the rest of the world (slowly getting there with more fibre cables arriving)

There are tons of cables now. We rarely see international outages. Since COVID also a couple of additional redundancies.

> - (Edit) Severe water shortages, at least a couple years ago in Cape Town.

I don't think this affected DC's much. And it's not like we had empty taps. I remember just using sprinklers less and topping up my swimming pool from roof-collected water instead of drinking water. Water shortage is hopefully being addressed long term and reservoirs are mostly full.

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> No serious data center in South Africa is affected by this. All have batteries and diesel generators.

It does mean higher operational costs since you're going to be paying for the unreliable electrical service in addition to regular usage of on-site electrical generation. So I wouldn't say no one is affected by this, but I will acknowledge the effects aren't measured in visible downtime.

Is there any sort of tech expat/“digital nomad” sort of community in SA? If so, what’s it like? If not, what inhibits it?

Thanks in advance.

Active tech scene particularly around Cape Town, the waterfront & Stellenbosch. Plenty makers, hackers & digital nomads. If you're looking for the outdoor life, MTB & hiking checkout Greyton, 2hrs from Cape Town. Just connected to the fibre network with speeds of 500mbps available. Beautiful mountains, lots of well priced restaurants&pubs. There's a Google engineer, an AWS product manager and plenty designers, coders and nomads in the village. Just won South Africa's Dorp (town) of the year. Ye olde England charm with warm sunny weather and super chilled locals.
There's a pretty big one in Cape Town. It's beautiful here, the food is good, internet is stable, and the coffee is cheap, so naturally we have hoards of Europeans (mostly Germans) here in the summer.
EC2 was created in Cape Town, so I heard....

https://youtu.be/9Gk_I_0eMDA

> here in the summer.

NB: summer in SA is November -> March, which is a huge win if Northern Europe's dreary winter is getting you down.

But it can be beastly hot in Jan/Feb, if you don't have reliable aircon.

I’m captured. Thank you.