[ohgodplsno]

Some pretty convincing data that they handpicked to make themselves look good and pretend they don't need a radar, a lidar and that vision only is good enough.

Perpetuating a pattern of lies from Tesla, ever since they started on self driving.

[simondotau]

You don’t need to take Tesla’s word for anything. Their latest vision stack is in the hands of ten thousand customers, some of whom regularly post their drives on YouTube.

[ohgodplsno]

And that regularly demonstrate catastrophic failures, yes, I know.

[simondotau]

What's your definition of catastrophic?

[FireBeyond]

"Would cause an accident without intervention".