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by sfvegandude 1358 days ago
Unfortunate that people who make more than $100/hr won't pay $60/year for an app they use every day.
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I paid for Spark once when I bought it, can't remember how much. It currently have every feature I need. Can you please explain why would I pay on a monthly basis for it, when I don't want new features, I don't want UI redesign just keep the app in a working state while we are going through the regular OS upgrade cycle.

My general experience with subscription based apps is that sooner or later they will introduce features I don't care at all, they remove features I use, they redesign the UI, in some cases they release a fully new version which does not even have feature parity with the previous version. (Looking at you 1password) and I simply cannot justify paying to a team who is obligated to do some feature work on a software I consider complete because I'm paying them money and ending up with something with a different look and feature set.

Charge me enough once to cover you development cost for the current state of the app, even charge me even for the upgrades needed to make your stuff working on a newer OS version.

It is sure a nice thing to get a continuous stream of money for a feature which had a one of cost, but on the consumer side, you will end up with an empty pocket very fast, if you are getting charged for every software/car/TV you use on a monthly basis.

It's been free up until now, so unlikely that you ever paid for it.
So my carpenter should be happy to keep paying for his drill or his circular saw? He should be grateful for the subscription to the lathe that he inherited from his grandfather?
Drills and saws don’t depend on an operating environment that changes constantly. Imagine if your drill and saw relied on an electrical source that got updated, requiring them to update the saw and drills themselves. Would you want to buy it with a one time fee, knowing that it could mean they go bankrupt? You’d end up with a drill and saw that no longer worked — then for no amount of money, subscription or otherwise, could you do what you wanted to do with it.
Why should consumers be penalized for programmers breaking their "operating environment" or whatever you want to call rent seeking behavior.
Huh? The environment changes due to the operating system updates.
Why should that break user programs?
Drills and saws are reliant upon attachments that need to be replaced to have any value.
Yes, but you are not forced to subscribe to a monthly fee to access those replacements (on a replacement schedule that doesn't even match your own usage of the tools), or have any access to the tools whatsoever.
'Americans earning >200K/yr' is a pretty small market to be targeting.

The average earner, especially outside the US, is already overburdened by recurring bills and subscriptions, especially during the energy crisis.

When even Netflix is losing subscribers rapidly, you've got to be offering something pretty special to get a regular low/mid-income person to subscribe.

Because the people got there did so by making sensible fiscal choices, maybe?

Just because someone decides to slap a subscription onto an email client (whose feature set is pretty standardized across the internet), doesn't mean it's worth it.

By that logic we should be sending thousands of dollars a year to our operating system vendors. Are you by chance a Red Hat employee?
Thunderbird is free, Outlook comes with an office subscription, most people probably just use Gmail.

Then there is Apple Mail if you are on Apple.

These are all good clients. I have never heard of Spark, is it that much better?

Edit: looking through their feature set, the answer is no. It doesn't seem to have a feature Thunderbird doesn't.

I used Spark for a while, as it supported Exchange/O365 out of the box which was one advantage over Thunderbird. It also has decent mobile support.

But Thuderbird is a superior email client, IMHO

Unfortunate that companies that used to sell products are choosing to rent them out instead.
Spark was free before this. Users can continue to use the free version (and existing customers will keep all the features they’ve had).