[bitL]

They can't, with blown up pipes they can't just start receiving gas they need. That gives credibility to this theory - if there are mass protests and new EU governments as a result, they can't go back anyway as there is no longer infrastructure for gas delivery anymore. It really looks like some group wants EU all in, so we should be prepared for the worst possible outcome (WW3, some life remaining on the planet) if that's even possible.

[weatherlite]

> They can't, with blown up pipes they can't just start receiving gas they need.

Pipes can be reconstructed, peace deals can be made and shut down gas fields can be reopened (looking at you Groningen).

> It really looks like some group wants EU all in, so we should be prepared for the worst possible outcome (WW3, some life remaining on the planet) if that's even possible.

Well if that happens it happens - what's your idea of preparing? To me a quick death sounds pretty good in such a case.

[bitL]

Pipes can't be reconstructed quickly and can be blown up again later.

My guess southern hemisphere might have some chance of survival if SHTF so that's where I will be heading. Most people will die gruesome prolonged deaths from starvation, broken bones or radiation, only a fraction will be vaporized instantly.

[moistly]

Are you aware that nukes were set off forty to sixty times a year for two decades? In 1962, 140 nuclear explosions. Over 2000 nukes have gone off.

Two cities have been nuked. They are thriving cities today. The planet has not been blown up. It is not a hellscape. Crops didn’t fail. Even the worst nuclear disasters have had very limited effect beyond their immediate vicinity.

Follow Dory’s advice: keep on swimming. The world is not ending this year.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_nuclear_weapons_s...

[bitL]

Those nukes went off sequentially, not all at once. Of course spreading effects across many years would lead small effects that could be mostly ignored.

[weatherlite]

You must be a hoot at parties! :)

Look I'm not saying it's an impossibility but I don't think it's very likely any time soon.

> Most people will die gruesome prolonged deaths from starvation, broken bones or radiation

Most people die a pretty shitty death from cancer / degenration / dementia. I can't see how you can escape that, it awaits us all .(btw why the south? Are they immune to nuclear winter / food shortages / climate change?)

[bitL]

Something with wind streams partially shielding southern hemisphere from winds in northern hemisphere. So by the time fallout reaches southern hemisphere, it will be partially diluted. Of course, assuming AUS/NZ/BRA/ARG won't get nuked as well, then it might be moot.

Maybe I am overly pessimistic, but I've seen my share of corp/gov dysfunctionalities and nothing gives me any assurance current "leaders" would stop before blowing up the planet.