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by brabel 1348 days ago
> It was Putin who decided to cut gas supplies, long before the pipeline was sabotaged.

That's factually incorrect. Germany said before the invasion, and followed through with it, that it would not allow NordStream2 to come into operation if Russia invaded.

Listen: Putin did start the war and caused most problems that are causing Europe's energy prices to skyrocket... but how can we just forget the order of event so quickly and start spreading fake claims when clearly it's not even necessary to make a point? Just say how it would be immoral to buy gas from Russia after the war was started regardless of consequences to the prices in Europe.

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Nordstream 2 is not needed to supply Germany with enough natural gas. It‘s not even open, was never open.

Russia decided to cut deliveries (long before February, even) until eventually cutting them completely. Germany‘s stated policy is to buy gas if Russia wants to deliver it.

> Nordstream 2 is not needed to supply Germany with enough natural gas. It‘s not even open, was never open.

Who said it was enough?? What are you responding to?? Also, it was definitely ready to operate since September 2021, and that's why it was full at the time of the explosions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream_2

> German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who had been in favour of the project,[2] suspended its certification on 22 February 2022

> On November 16, 2021, European natural gas prices rose by 17% after Germany's energy regulator suspended approval of the Nord Stream 2

You can blame Putin for a lot of shit, but on this one, it was all Germany's fault.

> how can we just forget the order of events

A high IQ is neither a necessary nor sufficient defense against well-crafted Western propaganda efforts.

Hackernews falls for CIA talking points just as effectively as a Redneck falls for QAnon.

There should be no surprise here.