[csdvrx]

> healthcare, education, etc and comparing them to the US median income which famously doesn't > Seems fair to take that from the US median income so we are comparing apples with apples

No, because it's a choice.

Many people don't go to university etc and do just fine.

Likewise, healthcare is a choice: some people don't want that (ex: DNR)

You want to push your values, and say impose higher education, but the way I look at it, since the people with the more education are generally at the top of the "foodchain" in the EU, I only see that as them voting for themselves a right to paid education, in theory accessible to the poor/immigrants etc but in practice that is mostly used by those at the top of the foodchain themselves, yet and subsidized by the rest of the population.

I'm not a big fan.

> Look - your point that people in USA have more money is mostly true. But when you add in the extras you have to pay

You don't have to pay for them - it's OPTIONAL. That's freedom.