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Unless I am missing something, nothing I said prior conflicts with your point, nor shows that GitHub is willfully violating the law. Are you aware of any copyrighted material that was illegally loaded to GitHub that has been proven to be used by CoPilot, it’s use was not transformative — AND - GitHub has not removed it from the model?

[simion314]

The code used in GitHub copilot is all copyrighted with GPL, MIT,BSD. Also lots of the code was not uploaded to GitHub by the authors so GitHub shity ToS won't apply so you can't claim that the authors agreed to some vague terms that we can now intepret as allows only GitHub to create copilot.

You did

1 MS did not violate copyright since is open source code, andfor soem reason you think that only proprietary code should be removed from copilot

2 even if MS violated the license the guilty person is the dude that uploaded the code to GitHub and click I Agree not he ToS, implying that somehow the GitHub ToS has the ability to change open source license(but t proprietary ones, since you claim MS "removed" such code when it was revealed).

As I mentioned above, MS are cowards, iof their thing is real creating new stuff then put their ass on the line and put their own code in too, put all proprietary code in GitHub in copilot too and then have their well paid lawyers defend their tech.

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As written, GitHub users are fully responsible for abiding by the terms of service, which supersede any legal terms uploaded unilaterally by a user.

Name calling is though is very clearly against HN’s guidelines.

[simion314]

Are you sure you understand what you are writing here?

Let me try to use an example, maybe we are both bad at expressing this in english

  I did no say that the user that uploads has no responsibility, but if I upload the Windows code, or FreeBSD code and mark it as GPL and click I agree on the ToS , does this mean that the original license is invalid and GitHub can do whatever they want just because a random person click an Html button?

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Prior statement by me within thread you are responding to:

>> “Are you aware of any copyrighted material that was illegally loaded to GitHub that has been proven to be used by CoPilot, it’s use was not transformative — AND - GitHub has not removed it from the model?”

Speculative claims to me are do not merit any response, especially when accusing party of something for which you have no related evidence; which actually might be defamation.

If you have any creditable, independently verifiable, material, etc - evidence of a violation of a specific reproducible CoPilot output, which is documented as having been a valid copyright violation by an unauthorized party, and it has not been removed from the model — please feel free to share links.

As is, GitHub has the right to use code unless they receive what I just requested multiple times from you and appears possible you’re intentionally ignoring for reasons I do not understand.

If I have missed something, it’s not intentional, happy to address any errors or omissions on my party if they exist; assuming you’re not skipping over my points.

[simion314]

>If you have any creditable, independently verifiable, material, etc - evidence of a violation of a specific reproducible CoPilot output, which is documented as having been a valid copyright violation by an unauthorized party, and it has not been removed from the model — please feel free to share links.

Snippets of code were already found, and MS did not removed them from the model but put an IF check to make sure is not appearing again.

So now I need to find specially for you a new snippet and also somehow ensure MS won't add it in the IF checks too ... then I would have proven to you that all that list of conditions are broken.

The proof was already shown, the code was spiting exactly snippets of code, I am not the one that needs to prove that the MS "quick fix" is working correctly now.

Dude I think this kind of AI can be done right, I am not convinced MS did it correct because they already outputed copyrighted code and on top of that they avoided to put their ass on the line. I don't hate the idea of copilot, just the bad implementation of it.