[gnarbarian]

harsh but true. society, family, culture, work, a baseball game etc. Each of these social structures comes with a whole host of expectations and rules that make that structure work. we routinely sacrifice our internal desires to meet these expectations. generally because we accept that we are all better off when we sacrifice a little for the good of the whole.

I think the really interesting thing is that these things can all work when people have vastly different motivations for participating. for an example with baseball, Joe may like the thrill of a well oiled team making a double play while frank lives to score and hit the ball. both Frank and Joe hate getting up to practice. we don't all need to have the same motivations to make the team work, the only thing that is needed is for the participants to understand the team is necessary to get what they want out of it.