[zmxz]

If your snarky comment is aimed at PHP, I'm afraid I have bad news for you.

> PHP becomes the first programming language with modern cryptography in its standard library thanks to the bundled libsodium

https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/php-25/#e_2017_11_30_2

If the snarky comment is aimed at the developer posting the claim, yet again, wrong target.

Don't be like that please.

[Huh1337]

What about all the languages that can simply use libsodium directly? I don't think having it in the std lib is really such a distinguished feat.

[zmxz]

> What about all the languages that can simply use libsodium directly

Nothing. It's great they do that.

I made a comment that refuted a snarky remark that had no basis, I did not compare languages nor post claims about language's awesomeness or anything else, just that it uses libsodium and that silly remarks centered around trashing PHP are based on lack of knowledge.

[Huh1337]

I agree the snark on PHP doesn't have much sense. I just don't think your reply is much better. This changes nothing - if anything, it shows that PHP needs to have libsodium integrated before it's available, which seems to be worse than other languages that can simply use it directly.

[zmxz]

So, there's a library called libsodium that deals with cryptography and your comment, based on literal nothing, is that PHP is somehow "worse" than other languages, yet PHP and other languages use libsodium for cryptographical purposes. What does "worse" mean? Somehow, the bytes get corrupted mid-transfer? We're arguing languages here for no reason at all, yet you are not even aware of how PHP uses it (spoiler: it uses is like the other undefined languages do, since there's only 1 way to do it).

If you got any arguments to support your "which seems to be worse", I'm readily waiting to read it.

Out of curiosity - why do you try to instantly compare A to B without knowing how A or B work internally? What's the gain in this discussion other than you making a claim you can't support and me being a jackass that wastes his time trying to talk to you?

[Huh1337]

It's worse in that you need to wait until PHP adds it into the library, instead of just downloading it and using it.

[sgammon]

libsodium has been available in java via JNA since 2017 but go off

[sgammon]

my comment was snark about the author, not the language, this site is ridiculous, and so are the claims about JWT

[vore]

Bundling libsodium in the standard library doesn't really seem to be a mark for or against PHP.

[sgammon]

His first recommendation is "not to write secure software in PHP," so I'm "Hm"-ing at the fact that he sells his business this way? but ok

[sgammon]

bundling libsodium is just a compliment about libsodium