[sethherr]

I mostly spend time on sites that I use multiple times a day. I prefer that those sites are designed for people who use them multiple times a day, not for people who visit once, from HN.

This might be targeting a minority of users - it’s design for power users. I’d expect HN to be supportive of this sort of design.

[2malaq]

> This might be targeting a minority of users - it’s design for power users. I’d expect HN to be supportive of this sort of design.

You'd expect.. But please listen.

[unionpivo]

If I am on my pc with a mouse getting to top is either a click or button combo away, so this popping up stuff is a net loss.

Its even worse on the phones where you sometimes get header plus some commercial and maybe a cookie banner, interacting with each other trying to figure out how to close them in order is a puzzle.

There have been maybe 1 or 2 sites out of all that i have visited, that I didn't immediately hate the banner.

To me it become a "site smell". So if I have an option I'll go elsewhere for my needs.

[birksherty]

Nobody likes it except developers of these annoyances themselves. It's not power, it's toxic annoying dickbar.

[omgmajk]

Why would HN be supportive of this toxic attitude towards users?

[klibertp]

What's wrong with a small ▾ icon you could tap to bring up the menu? Then tap again to hide it? Crucially, without changing what content's scrollTop with either action? I'd expect (haha) power-users to be capable of tapping on an indicator to bring up (or down) the menu...