[drekipus]

News and reports are always making sure to frame it in certain ways. They can't say "perhaps sabotage" because then fingers will start pointing and everything gets on edge.

News is full of "it's just a coincidence, look away" -- speculating is fun, but don't be a conspiracy theorist. Always listen to approved, fact-checked news sources. They'll tell you what to think.

And in this case you need to look at this as anything but sabotage.

[cowpig]

"News and reports are always"

[innagadadavida]

Sometimes you need to hear the other party’s newsfeed. Tucker Carlson breaks it down: https://twitter.com/columbiabugle/status/1574921923624058887... Excerpt 6min: “One way or another Nordstream 2 will not proceed”

[dralley]

Even the flipping Germans were saying NordStream 2 is dead. This was Scholz in August: “we ended the approval process for good reason.”

Tucker is pretending this is a smoking gun when the reality is, the US and Germany had a political agreement wherein the US agreed to lift sanctions on NordStream 2 in 2021 so long as Germany agreed that further Russian aggression would prompt re-evaluation. This was reported months and months ago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/01/biden-eur...

"Before Scholz, the German chancellor, visited Biden at the White House on Feb. 7, for instance, the two leaders had come to a general agreement that Nord Stream 2 would be taken off the table should Russia invade Ukraine, the administration officials said.

At the time, in a joint news conference after their meeting, Biden was unequivocal about what would happen to the pipeline if Russia invaded Ukraine. “There will be no longer a Nord Stream 2,” Biden said. “We will bring an end to it.”

But Scholz, while generally acknowledging that Germany was prepared to “act together jointly” with the United States and other allies, pointedly did not mention the pipeline by name, raising questions about Germany’s commitment.

Administration officials added that while they had no doubt about Germany’s commitment, they conveyed to Germany that, if and when the time came, Germany could announce the halting of Nord Stream 2 — the ideal outcome for everyone, the Biden administration argued — or the United States could impose sanctions effectively ending it.

Ultimately, however, when the time came, Germany did not waver. After a three-way phone call between Biden, Scholz and Macron to discuss a joint response to Putin’s initial aggression, Germany surprised the group by swiftly announcing it was halting the certification of Nord Stream 2.

No arm-twisting was required, said one French official familiar with the dynamic. And shortly thereafter, the Biden administration announced its own Nord Stream 2 sanctions."

There is no mystery about what Biden was talking about at the time.

[StanislavPetrov]

>Even the flipping Germans were saying NordStream 2 is dead. This was Scholz in August: “we ended the approval process for good reason.”

The same Germans who said they were shuttering all their nuclear plants until reality changed and they weren't. Tucker Carlson and partisan politics completely aside, only a fool believes anything any politician ever says. Politicians speak out of the desire to gain votes, the desire to gain donations, the desire to gain legal bribes from lobbyists, the desire to gain support (and avoid opposition) from intelligence agencies (primarily the CIA), the desire to gain favor among other perceived powerful interests and the desire to gain positive coverage from the most powerful media outlets (especially those dominant among their respective political constituency). The realities on the ground dictate what happens, and the reality now is that someone blew up the pipeline.

[rob74]

Newsflash: the Germans are still shuttering their nuclear plants! They merely extended 2 of the 3 still operating plants for a few more months (until mid April 2023), I guess because that's how long they can operate with the existing fuel rods - Either at continuously diminishing output, or they reduce output now so the power can be used should it be necessary during the winter months. For anything more, they would need to source new fuel rods from somewhere, and there the dominating player is, wait for it, also Russia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosatom). So: don't trust what politicians say, but also take what journalists (all journalists, not just the likes of Tucker Carlson) say/write with a big grain of salt...

[StanislavPetrov]

>So: don't trust what politicians say, but also take what journalists (all journalists, not just the likes of Tucker Carlson) say/write with a big grain of salt...

You shouldn't trust what any public figure has to say. The fact is that Germany is about to go into a deep freeze, and all of their hollow rhetoric is going to rapidly go away when reality sets in. You don't need a politician or journalist to explain it. It is unfortunate that objective reality causes cognitive dissonance in so many, and prevents serious conversations about how to deal with reality-based problems.

[Maursault]

> but also take what journalists write with a big grain of salt...

If he ever was, Tucker Carlson is not a journalist (reporter). He's a political narrator and host of a television show.

[cowpig]

Trying to add more different kinds of propaganda to your "feed" in attempt to find truth is like adding an additional incompetent PM to a project that's behind schedule in hopes that it will help move things along.

[sriram_malhar]

You mean "entertainment" feed. There's no news there. Fox won a case by arguing that no one takes Tucker carlson seriously.

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/fox-news-...