[Zababa]

Making archives yourself? 4chan has a constant rotating cast of archive websites, with custom software developed. Internet is not only archive.org and cloudflare. You're a user too, you could make archives. Rejecting the responsibility on two big entities is just too easy.

[YurgenJurgensen]

I'm not a user, although it's telling that you assumed I was. I barely even knew they existed until this incident appeared on HN. How am I supposed to know that Cloudflare's response was justified? Given all the bad things Cloudflare turns a blind eye to, this particular thing must be extraordinarily bad, and you know what people say about extraordinary claims.

[Zababa]

> I'm not a user, although it's telling that you assumed I was.

I wasn't clear here, I meant user of internet in general. What I mean is that while your response may be justified, in reality archiving is a complex thing and forgetting/stuff disappearing is the default. Unless you actively fight against it (for example by archiving, but also personally like using spaced repetition for remembering stuff), you will forget, things will disappear. Lots of people are putting a lot of time and energy to try to remember more stuff, and some to try to forget/make people forget stuff. What may look like a decision by a big company is a constant war fought by people with vastly different opinions and values on what matters. If you consider something is worth preserving, you should try to contribute in your own way.

It's small, but I personally save web pages that I like, music that I like, movies that I like, so they can't just disappear on me.