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by cdaven 1354 days ago
> Good "leadership" decisions in my opinion are really about good delegation and organisation of a team's resources, you shouldn't really be taking "lead" in any actual decision making

You're not talking about leadership, you're talking about "decision-making high-ranking (?) managers in the business world".

A good leader is someone who you want to follow, because you trust that they will do their best in guiding you (the team) towards your goal.

Wouldn't you rather follow someone who would feel bad/guilty for letting the team down?

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> You're not talking about leadership, you're talking about "decision-making high-ranking (?) managers in the business world".

I don't think I understanding the difference. Are "high-ranking managers" not classed as "leaders"? Could you give me an example of a leader as you understand it?

> A good leader is someone who you want to follow, because you trust that they will do their best in guiding you (the team) towards your goal.

I guess I don't want to follow anyone? I just want be able to have input where I am able to offer value.

Similarly when I'm in leadership positions, I don't want to dictate, I want to understand how we as a team can make the best decisions. Sometimes I might be the best person to make a decision, but that's rare, and even then I still want to confirm my decisions with my team to ensure everyone approves and understands the decisions being made. I think seeking approval is both an important step to getting the team onboard and receiving any needed feedback. Any "leader" who didn't do this would be a bad leader in my opinion. This is often where I see things go wrong at companies, if I as an expert in some field object to what I or someone else is being told to do and I'm overridden without a very good explanation that gives me red flags.

I'm INTP though and we tend to struggle with hierarchies. I find it hard to believe that people are best utilised as unopinionated "followers" of all-knowing leaders, but I suppose I would think that given my personality.

> Wouldn't you rather follow someone who would feel bad/guilty for letting the team down?

Well yeah, but I'd also feel annoyed that this person let the team down if the decision could have been made better as a team. If a single person is accepting guilt for an entire team then something is probably wrong. Ideally I'd want the team to be feeling guilty, because I'd argue it's the team as a whole that should have been responsible. I know as a team member I always take fall responsibility for mistakes made and would never delegate my guilt to my manager. I could have always have done more. We all can.

> Are "high-ranking managers" not classed as "leaders"?

You can be a leader without being a manager, and you can be a manager without being a leader.

> Ideally I'd want the team to be feeling guilty, because I'd argue it's the team as a whole that should have been responsible.

I don't agree at all, and this is probably where we think differently about leadership, and why you don't like the article's conclusions.

When the team fails, it's the leader's fault. When the team succeeds, the leader lets the team have the praise and the glory.

Listen to Jocko Willink's talks about extreme ownership on Youtube. He talks about this.