[civilized]

As a millennial who grew up watching the great Disney movies of the 90s, I just pretend the remakes don't exist.

Disney (classic Disney-Princess-Disney, excluding Pixar, Marvel, and all the "properties" they've acquired over the years) has made a great movie once every 3-8 years for the past few decades. In between, they've always made utter garbage to squeeze every dollar out of the great ones. Almost every Disney sequel has been a turd. Doesn't anyone remember how disappointing it was? This is just more of the same.

They're still making good ones: Frozen, Moana, Encanto. Just watch those and pretend the rest doesn't exist.

[badRNG]

> They're still making good ones: Frozen, Moana, Encanto. Just watch those and pretend the rest doesn't exist.

Probably the most objective way to view this is to actually look at the list of films from any given decade and see how many flops they had [1]. There's a bias at play here: the only movies we remember Disney making a decade+ ago are the hits. We don't often remember the misses.

Apparently Disney's "Renaissance" ended with Tarzan in 1999; but here are a list of movies that have come out since the end of this golden era:

- Monsters, Inc.

- Lilo and Stitch

- Treasure Planet (a personal favorite)

- Finding Nemo

- Pirates of the Caribbean

- The Incredibles

- Ratatouille

- WALL-E

- Up

- Tangled

- Brave

- Wreck-It Ralph

- Frozen

- Inside Out

- Encanto

I'm sure there's many great ones that you might love that I'm missing. But I'd say this lineup is potentially better than the list of movies spanning The Little Mermaid to Tarzan. To the author's credit, I will say there's part of me that's nostalgic for the traditional style of 2d character animation.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Walt_Disney_Pictures_f...

[tehnub]

These are mostly Pixar films — different studio, but owned by Disney. The list you want is here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Walt_Disney_Animation_....

[civilized]

Big Hero 6

[vlunkr]

> I just pretend the remakes don't exist.

This great advice whenever a piece of media is making you angry. We’re probably justified in being angry at these soulless assembly line remakes, but spending your time and energy complaining does no one any good.

[Cerium]

If one of my friends tells me that a remake is crap, don't watch it. I trust them. I still have not seen the sequels to the Matrix.

[personalidea]

I recently rewatched the first Matrix movie and came to the conclusion that it is as well crap, when compared to Dark City.

[helf]

Looooove Dark City!

But let’s not forget the movie that was right after The Matrix but also much better: Equilibrium

[personalidea]

Oh, thanks for the recommendation on Equilibrium. Somehow that one went under my radar until now.

Will check it out next Movie night.

[wrp]

For me, the quality of Disney movies has been in a downward trend ever since Walt Disney himself died, but if you look at the whole of the Disney catalog, you'll see that they always produced a lot of films that are best forgotten.

[Animats]

Disney used to have an official Crap Sequels Division: DisneyToons. Wikipedia has a list of their direct-to-DVD movies, which could usually found at the bargain bin near the checkout counter.[1] When Disney acquired Pixar in 2006, somehow John Lassiter ended up in charge of Disneytoons. He didn't like running the crap sequels business. After a decade of cancellations and missteps, DisneyToons was shut down in 2018 and the animators were laid off.

Disneytoons movies only cost about $15M to make and usually made over $100M.

Dumbo (2019) was not a Disneytoons movie. It cost $170 million to make. The problem Disney now faces is that classic low-end animation won't sell, and photorealistic with live action is very expensive to produce. So they now lack a low-end product line.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneytoon_Studios

[civilized]

I would buy classic low-end animation if it was a good story! I assumed that was what was too expensive to produce. Hand-drawn.

[ycombinete]

We watched Moana recently. The animation, and story were absolutely lovely! The songs on the other hand were boring.