[cratermoon]

> doesn't it require some tenacity to get into an Ivy school

Ivy schools are famously cagey about the number of "legacy" admissions, but the best research suggest they weigh legacy many times more than any other criteria, and legacy admissions make up some %15 of the total. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/legacy-admissions-coll...

[notimetorelax]

Good, so 85% of students worked hard to get into the Ivy League. But because of the 15% you say that their accomplishments is nothing?

[shapefrog]

Unironically I have to have conversations with people who rant about private school A grades being worth D's because their accomplishments are nothing.

Naturally now they are sending their children to private school, their children are not being handed everthing on a plate and their grades are great accomplishments.

Envy really does destroy the functional parts of the brain where intellectual honesty resides.

[EddySchauHai]

Yep. I went to a good private school (a so called public school in England) and can confirm it does not result in good grades lol. It still requires some drive and care about school to succeed.

[fleetwoodsnack]

This is a joke shared with me in Cambridge:

The difference between the ivies and the others is that the dumbest person at an ivy may well be its richest.

Make of that what you will.

[EddySchauHai]

Cambridge isn't exempt - if you're a great rower you can get into Land Economics pretty easily ;)

[fleetwoodsnack]

Cambridge, Massachusetts my love.

[EddySchauHai]

Ahhhh, I forget there's another.