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by decebalus1 1364 days ago
Source for those statements? I've been following this since it appeared in the news cycles but I don't recall any evidence of physical damage. There were some inconclusive physical changes (keyword changes, not damage) but that doesn't really constitute as any form of proof that the condition is not psychosomatic.
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KaoruAoiShiho 1364 days ago
I'm not exactly an expert at this so maybe this got debunked somehow but I've seen consistent reporting on MRI showing brain damage.

Here's a mention of it in this article. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-blood-and-bure...

Another report, or is it the same one as referenced above?

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2673168

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sudosysgen 1364 days ago
These are both the same report, and it is not conclusive (which the authors agree on). There are many issues with the report, but one is that as it wasn't pre-registered and due to its exploratory nature, it's highly sensitive to accidental p-hacking.

Until a completely new sample of victims with no relation is taken and the study replicated against a completely new control group with no relation, it has very little value. And even if it did, it still wouldn't be conclusive - psychosomatic illness can have physiological effects.

The only way is to prove the mechanism of the attack - which for microwave attacks is readily done with wearable RF devices - and to find a physiologically plausible mechanism for that exact observed attack. Which should be pretty easy to do, and which the CIA hasn't done.

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KaoruAoiShiho 1364 days ago
> Which should be pretty easy to do, and which the CIA hasn't done.

Would make sense if it was an own equipment malfunction.

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decebalus1 1364 days ago
thanks!
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freyr 1364 days ago
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/25/politics/havana-syndrome-...
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decebalus1 1364 days ago
Not sure if you're comment is condescending or I've asked the wrong question. Probably a bit of both. I did read the article but I was asking more along the lines of actual evidence. This being a new and highly publicized phenomenon, I'd expect this to be a goldmine for research clinicians so I'd expect quite a lot of chatter in the form of articles or case studies.
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