[sylware]

Who is "we"? In "should we allow"... NK can nuke SK whenever they want since SK has no nuclear umbrella, same goes for any asian country. That said, I wonder how China would react.

I don't see putin's regime occupying the whole ukraine, but some territories with pro-putin's regime ukrainians... which would actually become part of russia. That seems perfectly realistic.

They did not throw everything they had: nukes. And the failing of putin's army is extremely dangerous. He could use nukes to account for the failing of its army.

That's why it is urgent to find a way out of this weird, really weird conflict.

[trasz]

“We” is, at this point, humanity. Russia no longer has allies that matter, in particular China and Kazakhstan are against the invasion. Same would be the case with NK.

Nukes are not a magic wand. They don’t guarantee victory - in fact, it’s perfectly reasonable to oppose them using conventional means, given a colossal weapons imbalance between NATO and Russia. And that’s again assuming that “Nigeria with nukes” can refurbish them, which is doubtful, and that assumptions of MAD are still true, which is doubtful as well.

[sylware]

Ok, then how this "humanity" will block putin's regime to use nukes? "magic" or "super heroes"?

And now nukes don't guarantee victory? ...

[_kbh_]

> Ok, then how this "humanity" will block putin's regime to use nukes? "magic" or "super heroes"?

If Russia drops a single tactical nuke on Ukraine I suspect they would loss the war within a month.

Any use of nukes requires a response and America would likely just delete all Russians from Ukraine and destroy the Black Sea fleet with conventional weapons.

Don’t forget that Ukraine has gotten anywhere near the latest and greatest NATO gear nor numbers.

There’s a reason Russia just keeps posturing about nukes instead of doing it, they know they will be met with overwhelming force from a actually modernised army.

[trasz]

You might want to do some reading about how nuclear warfare works.

[sylware]

dude... it is not the cold war: one "side" has nukes, the other side nil.

And actually, there is so much disinformation, I am not even sure of the meaning of "sides" here.

I play dota2, mixed ukrainian-russian pro teams are from the best in the world and are _currently_ competing. All of them will be traitors in their respective country??? All that does not make any sense.

Hope a way out of this weird conflict is found soon.

[_kbh_]

> Hope a way out of this weird conflict is found soon.

Only way out of this conflict is for Russia to leave all of Ukraine (including Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk).

Unfortunately due to Russias attitude regarding the war this can only be done by force.

[sylware]

putin's regime does not care, they have russian nukes (or maybe "super conventional bombs" like the US, but it does not "wipe clean" a front line like a tactical nuke).

I wish this weird, really weird, conflict was finished yesterday. I hope putin's regime will not use nukes due to the failing of its conventional army.

Nobody understands really why people are killing each other over there.